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Is there any use of electives in fields other than field/specialty of interest?
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How many weeks of electives/ number of electives are enough/sufficient?
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How can I improve my chances for acceptance for electives in any medical school?
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My medical school is not a well-reputed one...can I get electives in US?
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What to write in 'Column of description of clinical activities in home school'
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Is there any use of doing short-term research/observership/electives?
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On which visa to go for electives/ which visa we need for electives?
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In order to go for electives, residency interviews and the Step 2 CS, you need to apply for a US visit visa (B1/B2). Try and apply as early as possible. Ideally, you should have taken Step 1 and Step 2 CK before you go for the interview.
You get the application materials from American Express offices in Karachi, Lahore and Islamabad. They are also available online at the web site of Islamabad’s US Embassy. Fill those up and put them in the application. Nowadays, they do not accept any extra documents to be attached with the application materials as every one is called for an interview. Once your application is processed, take the earliest date available. The American Express also gives out the interview dates.
Do you mention Step 3 on the visa application and during the visa interview? The answer is NO. Step 3 is a big no-no. The reason is that people who have gone previously for residency interviews had to stay longer to do Step 3 and many of them took extensions. Visa consulars know that. So, on the application and during the interviews, mention your reasons for visit as Step 2 CS examination and residency interviews…that’s all.
Documents to take with you for the interview:
All original documents should be along with you for the interview. Needless to state, you will also take your passport and visa application.
1- Print out of Step 2 CS date and testing center
2- Print out of Scheduling Permit
3- Visa Letter from the ECFMG
4- Step 1 score, if available
5- Step 2 CK score, if available
6- AKU documents (which include Medical School Diploma, Transcript, Dean's letter etc.)
7- Job letter (if you are doing a job e.g. Teaching Assistant, Research Assistant, then ask your supervisor to write you a letter saying that you are working at this place and once you come back from the US, you will continue your job). + Pay slips.
8- Evidence of last trip to US: If you have gone to US before, what did you do there? Most of the students have gone for electives. It is worthwhile to keep US recommendation letters as proof of your visit.
9- Affidavits of support from your parents (saying that my son or daughter is going abroad for medical board examinations and I will be bearing his/her expenses).
10- Affidavit of Non-immigrant Intent (saying that you will return and giving reasons why you are going to do so).
11- Proof that you can afford the trip. This proof can be in the form of Bank Statement, Property Documents and/or credit Card summaries.
12- All educational documents from school till medical school.
13- Print out of your ERAS account (if applicable).
Know which document is where otherwise you would not look good in front of the interviewer. Dress professionally but make sure that you are comfortable as well. Arrive at the parking no later than six o’clock in the morning.
Get rid of your mobiles and stand in the line where they give out bus tickets to the US embassy. Once you get the tickets, you make a run for the line where they are loading the buses for the US embassy. Please note that there are other buses for other embassies too so you need to check where to go. Once you sit in the bus, the bus takes you to Diplomatic Enclave and drops you in front of the US Consulate. There, you form two lines; one for immigrant visas and one for non-immigrant visas. You will stand in the non-immigrant visa line. Then, the security guards will call you and after a thorough security check, you go inside the Consulate where your fingerprints are taken and your passport and visa application is taken. Then, you wait for the interview. Good luck!!!
After the interview, your passport is sent to USA for security clearance (if you are a guy). This takes a very variable amount of time. Officially, the consulars tell you that it would take anywhere from 2 weeks to three months.
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Visa for NIH
Hi there.
@visa number in red color
Even my visa # is in red. Its like that.......dont worry.
Best Wishes.
VISA for NIH.
Earlier I had stated that NIH doesnt care id you are on B1 or B2. But what I came to know through some of my mates is that they asked one student to get b2 changed to B1. The student had to go back to airport and get it changed from B2 to B1 and also 6 months decreased to 3 months.
Take note. I am sorry for my earlier post, coz they accepted my B2.(bad handwriting I think thats why)
Best Wishes
Medisid help!
Hi,
I'm headed to NIH for an elective next month..but a problem with my visa cropped up...
I have a B1/B2 multiple entry visa & entered the US to do 3 months of electives and give my step 2 CS..at the port of entry, I requested the immigration officer to stamp B1 visa as NIH had specifically asked for it..he said that B1 visa can be given for only 90days and my stay was exceeding that so he has to stamp a B2 for me...when I insisted n showed him the NIH letter, he explained that since my visa is B1/B2, NIH should not have a problem accepting me...
Now 2 weeks before my rotation, I get an email from NIH that B2 stamp on I-94 will not be accepted. I explained what happened to them. They said I can still participate in the NIH CEP but my duties will be limited to observing!
Can u please tell me how much this will affect my elective? Please suggest what I should do..
How did ppl u know change their visa status? I need to work fast my elective starts next week!
Thanks.
@priyanka
I hope you got your answers.........
U can do as observorships(just to show DIS:visa ppl at NIH)
I dont think it will matter much at rounds etc.
Best Wishes
VISA for NIH
NIH is quite firm on its requirement of a B1 VISA. I even got a mail from them saying that I should get a B1 stamp. I sent a mail to their coordinator saying that I will be at NIH during the 4th month of my US visit so I cant come on a B1 and I will need to be there on a B2. She stated that we do require students to come on B1, but I will forward your problem to the concerned department.Lets see what they say.
In the meanwhile, I landed in USA and my portal of entry was Detroit. I showed the NIH letter to the immigration officer and she then took me to their higher officials in a separate room. I was interrogated thoroughly there regarding my plans. Finally then called up NIH to confirm and verify me. I think the NIH people requested them to allow me B1. So finally, I got a B1 for 5 months! I gather from this experience that if you are able to convince the people here, they may bend some rules for you. Hope I have been of help. Cya people
@visa for NIH.
I am in NIH on B2 status and they dont care if it is B1 or B2, as long as it is B or J or sth valid written. As i told before B2 is better coa u can get upto six months on it, while as i heard on B1 they give maximum 3 months. But nevertheless, u can get B1 or B2 extended if the need arises for 1-2 months.
I am planning to do that and then will be able to shed more light.
Best Wishes.
Regarding Section 221g Visa
My Visa officer told me that my Visa was approved. but when i got my passport thro courier they sent me a blue form stating my visa is pending under section 221g. and they need another document before approving my Visa.. :( ... they need the no. of hours my elective will b and the complete schedule. Can any1 plz help me regarding this.. Thank u very much
Send them this required
Send them this required information... I hope your visa has been approved and its just a formality they need to fulfil...
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@ Umar bhai
Thank u bhai . Hope what u said is correct .
visa issue!
i wanted to ask a question. i have been accepted for research elective in the department of regenerative medicine concerned with the use of stem cells for cardiac repair. the duration of my research elective is one month.
im currently facing confusion regarding my visa. Am i supposed to apply through J1 visa or B1?
please help me out
thank you
anique
Hi Anique You need to ask
Hi Anique
You need to ask this question from elective co-ordinator of the department you have been accepted to. Different universities have different visa requirements, so no one can suggest you which visa you need to apply for, without knowing where you got accepted.
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Professional Liability Policy
Hi Umar!
Vicki Malick has asked me to send a copy of Professional Liability Coverage Policy!I dont have any idea about it.Please let me know what that means and where could I get it done in India?
and I had one more question....do v get any letter from the NIH that v have done an Elective there?how and when do v get that?
Thanks for answering all my questions.
what r u doing right now?Have u got into Residensy?I remember...u wanted Radiology right?
Take Care.Regards,
Praveena
Hi Praveena 1. It is
Hi Praveena
1. It is malpractice coverage.
2. You can get ur evaluation form filled or request her a certificate.
3. well m preparing for step 1 these days... at home full time... wont be applying for residency now...
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Hey Umar! Thanks for the
Hey Umar!
Thanks for the reply.I dont know where to get Malpractice coverage from?!
anywayz...all the best for your step 1..!
Take care!
Praveena.
There are few options;
There are few options; please visit the following link
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Hi Umar, I really appreciate
Hi Umar,
I really appreciate ur great work.I would like to know how is B1/b2 visa related to electives.My visa date is on feb25.Please help.B1 visa is a business visa.we are not going there for this purpose.But while filling the application,I applied for a b1/b2 visa.I dont know how to support it
B1/2 visa
Usually the visa that is given is B1/B2 both.
When u enter USA at airport, they stamp either B1 or B2. I personally prefer B2 because it can get you a maximum of 6 months stay stamped at that time, while on B1 (business ) the maximum u get is 3 months. The NIH letter states B1 visa, but my POE(airport) officer didnt check it so thorughly and since i showed him purpose to stay here for 4 months, he stamped me B2 for 6 months........ :-).
Best Wishes 4 ur interview.
B1 VISA for NIH
Hi! first of all, my best wishes to Umar bhai and Siddiqui for the valuable guidance. I really appreciate Umar bhai's dedicated selfless hard work for helping out others.
Well currently, I have been accepted at University of Wisconsin for April, Cornell for May, NIH for July and Kansas for August. I will be appearing for CS in June. Now since I have my NIH in July i.e. my 4th month in US, I dont think I would be able to be there on a B1. But Siddiqui mentioned that he went to NIH on a B2. Are the NIH officials okay with that? Should I ask for a B2 stamp too, at the POE?
Thanks in advance.
I am not sure about it,
I am not sure about it, better confirm it from Vicki... I think there won't be any problem...
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im in a very similar
im in a very similar situation, any advice would be appriciated
Generally embassy is aware of
Generally embassy is aware of it, B1 is also applicatble for short term scientific/academic study. 'clinical clerkship/elective' is in their OFFICIAL database for applicability for B1
If your acceptance letter mentions abt B1, its the best thing.
You can still support it by printing relevant visa info frm the website of the university of ur elective.
If its not there, you can e-mail the elective coordinator to inquire abt visa applicability to foreign students, and then present their printouts to the embassy.
gl, share ur xperience !
thanks medisid and fertile
thanks medisid and fertile for the valuable info!
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assalamu va alikum...urgent
assalamu va alikum...urgent help needed!!!
I am applying for visitors visa for cs. My uncle who stays in india wants to sponsor me..
Can he do that n where can i get the format for the same..
m sorry... m not sure... as
m sorry... m not sure... as far as I know u need ur(or ur guardian's) bank statement with funds in it... as ur sponsor
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Hi umar! As I have told u
Hi umar!
As I have told u earlier...I've got Hematology Elective at NIH.As u have done in the same dept.,I would like to know what kind of work we will get to do there,How is it useful for us,what sort of preparation is required etc.!plz let me know at the earliest possible.
Thanks & Regards,
Praveena.
You simply follow the fellow
You simply follow the fellow on duty for that month... you do whatever he does... attend conferences... go to clinic... do bone marrows... take referrals... prep... study haemotology in medicine and pathology before going... esp all markers... it is a very good learning opportunity... convey my regards to dr. noel, paula and dr. lozier... dr. noel is an extremely nice person and so is their in charge nurse... paula... an extremely helpful and nice lady...
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Hey Umar! I just saw ur
Hey Umar!
I just saw ur reply...didnt login since few days.
Thanks again for all the info...and will surely pass on ur message to them.
and i have one more question...what would the work timings be at NIH?they mention 40 hours a week...but i learnt that it is even more than that?!!is that true?
take care!
Praveena.
Varies from time to time and
Varies from time to time and department to department... it can be more than 40 hours or less than that....
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Totally Confused
Dear Umar bhai!
I am a student of DMC karachi. I have written to u at this blog once or twice n it was of great help. I had applied to U of Minnesotta, U Chicago and NIH and got accepted for July last year and couldnt go cuz of the visa delay then i applied to Johns Hopkins for Jan this year and couldnt make it again for the same reason. Now i am in a fix and im confused if i should withdraw my VISA app and apply again. I am in my 4th year and soon will be require a visa for the mandatory clinical elective hence the urgency.
Looking forward to your reply!
Arsalan
Do not withdraw your visa
Do not withdraw your visa application... i dont think thats a wise option... when did you apply?
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I applied ( 9 motnhs back).
I applied ( 9 motnhs back). April of 2009 to be exact!
I dont think u should
I dont think u should withdraw your application... I know few people who got visa after 10-12 months...
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going canada from USA.
hi umar,
i am a medical student from india, applied for electives in USA. I am granted in weill cornell for 2 months univ of toronto fr 1 month.I am very thankful to u fr that. I hold a multiple entry B1/B2 visa fr 10 yrs. I request u to tell me if i can get the canada visa from USA or i need to apply from my home country only.
hi... i m not sure about
hi... i m not sure about that... i think it is better if u apply if from home country only..... try calling the canada embassy yourself.... google search their website and email them your query or call them.... but I would certainly recommend applying for visa from your home-country....
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B1/2 Visa??
Hello!
Many places specifically require B1 visa for electives like NIH, Yale, etc. And B1 is Business visa. B2 is the visitor visa! But when we apply for visa for electives, we select the category 'tourism,family visit, all other purposes'.(i.e B2) and not Business visit. This selection has to be made at the beginning of application at the VFS site.
Usually VOs give B1/2 visa and at POE u get B1 stamped or B2 stamped!
What if VO issued only B2 for that, would that cause any hindrance for electives????
Umar bhai since u have been to NIH, i wud request you to drop in a word or two. I could be confused too about this business/visitor. Kindly explain. I dont know whether B1/2 (both visitor and business)completely comes under tourism category, and Business category of VFS cud refer to L1 intercompany transfer trainees....
Phew...........
but Best wishes
visa
hello,
I am medical student from INDIA.I have applied for elective.now I got confuse about visa.
what should I do?
apply for visa on basis of elective or on basis of cs?
I have step-1 exam next month.
so please some one help me.
hey mayank, did you get your
hey mayank, did you get your visa, and on what basis you got? pls let me know.
if you are going for
if you are going for electives then apply on the basis of electives... dont lie for any reason unnecessarily...
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URGENT VISA INFO REQUIRED!
Dear Umar Bhai!
I am Arsalan from DMC, Karachi and have been a silent visitor of this blog n it has helped me a greta deal so far! I had appplied for a research elective at U of Minnesotta for July 2009 and my B1/B2 visa did not arrove on time, so i couldnt go. Then i applied to JHU for a research elective for Jan 2010 session and got accepted. My Visa is still nto here. Please tell me if i should inform them that since i dint get my passport b4 July i culdnt make it to minnessotta and now il be goin to Maryland rather in January now OR should i just keep waiting for my Visa/Passport to arrive and dont inform anything. Beacause if i do inform the they might delay my processing even further.
Hi Arslan, thanks a lot for
Hi Arslan, thanks a lot for your kind words... well I dont think it matters much at all but anyhow you can write/contact them to be on the safe side but as far as I know they would simply say that you can go on the same visa without any changes.... moreover I would recommend you to write to UofM and request them to give you electives this year once again as you missed last year because of bad luck...
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Umar Bhai i did write to
Umar Bhai i did write to the U of M and they have agreed to give me the research elective for january(neurology) but since Johns Hopkins has a far better programme and the the elective is in my desired speciality(Orthopaedic Surgery) i have opted to go for that rather. You think its a better option too?
well you can ask them to
well you can ask them to delay it for a month or so... I agree JHUSOM is better than UofM... but if I had been in your place... I would have tried to go to both... moreover there are few Pakistanis from Dow n AKU in UofM Neurology...
MN is my hometown in US and I have my whole family there... so I know many people in UofM... their Neuro program is very good!
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